mofe sa for 20år siden:

www.dagbladet.no/dinside/2004/11/18/414918.html

Mulig den er postet et annet sted på forumet, hvis ikke, så er den her.

Nille sa for 20år siden:

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Jaaaaaada, behøver nesten ikke åpne linken engang !
Det finnes vannvittig mange "forskningsrapporter" som har dette resultatet, - og det aller morsomste er at det er minst like mange som har motsatt resultat. Det kommer velig mye an på hvem som betaler for forsøket ser du !!

Vi får ta det med en klype salt. VI vet jo at det ikke er snakk om KUR, men en total kostholds endring. Det var også mange faktiske feil i artikkelen, både når dete gjelder hva vi spiser/ikke spiser og - som bl.a. at Atkins døde overvektig. Noe som jo er kraftig tilbakevist og dokumentert at han IKKE var - altså ikke mer enn andre komapasienter med store vannansamlinger !!

Jeg kan for mitt bare liv ikke forstå at det er usunt å ikke spise hvitt mel, pasta, ris og poteter - raske karber.

Jeg lar helsen, huden og håret mitt tale for seg selv jeg. Og ja, også vekten min !! :snill: Den har jeg holdt søren så lenge !! :)

Nille sa for 20år siden:

Undersøkelsen Dagbladet referer til er omtalt her. Uthevet med orange ! Ser ut til at Dagbladet har unnlatt å ta med noen viktige momenter...... Hvorfor er ikke dette overraskende ?? :p

First Major Study Examining Long-Term Followers of Low-Carbohydrate Diets Reveals Significant Success Rate

Wednesday November 17, 9:31 am ET

Study of Individuals Following the Protocols of Low-Carb Diets Directly Refutes Conclusions Mistakenly Drawn From National Weight Loss Registry Data

NEW YORK, Nov. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Researchers today presented results on the first long-term study of people actually following low-carb diets. "Earlier reviews this week of long-term dieters have relied on data from people who were lowering their daily carb intake and actually consuming added sugars as a part of their daily menu," explains Colette Heimowitz, vice president education and research, Atkins Health & Medical Information Services.

This first-of-its-kind study, presented at the 2004 North American Association for the Study of Obesity's (NAASO) Annual Conference in Las Vegas, NV shows that truly controlling carbohydrates -- which means consuming adequate levels of nutrient-dense foods including non-starchy vegetables, protein, fat and fiber, is an effective way to lose and maintain weight loss over an extended period of time. These results refute the media reports on a study presented at the same conference.

The earlier abstract, "Are the Diets of Successful Weight Losers Changing?" presented on Monday was reported to show that people gained weight when they increased their fat intake while decreasing their carbohydrate intake over a period of time, based on data using the National Weight Control Registry. However, as the authors of that study themselves explained, the so-called "extra fat" intake resulted from individuals consuming "junk foods" rather than by decreasing in healthy carbs. In fact, the abstract actually confirms what low-carb researchers have known for a long time: adding "junk food" to any lifestyle will result in weight gain, regardless of following a low-fat or low-carb approach.

"There should be no argument that consuming carbohydrates that have no nutritional value will cause weight gain no matter what the lifestyle is," said Mary Vernon, president-elect of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians. "The problem comes when one concludes that people consuming 90 grams of carbs per day or more, including carbs from added sugars and white flour, are following a low-carb nutritional program. Anyone who understands the protocols of low-carb nutrition knows they were not, and to say so is misleading."

New Albert Einstein research presents revolutionary long-term results on low-carb

A poster presented today by CJ Segal-Isaacson, assistant professor of epidemiology at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine on The CCARB (Controlled Carbohydrate Assessment Registry Bank) Study, revealed the first public presentation of long-term data provided in a population study by individuals known to be adherents to a low-carb diet. The CCARB Study will examine the physical activity and health patterns of 1300 people over a three-year period. At the one-year point in her study, results are showing that individuals controlling carbohydrates, eating an adequate amount of protein and increasing their intake of non-starchy, nutrient-dense vegetables, have consistently maintained weight loss over the last 18 months.

In addition, The CCARB Study has shown in regression analysis that carbohydrate intake, fiber intake and frequency of workouts were strong predictors of weight change in the reported participants. Of the 34.5 percent of people in her study who have gained over five pounds in the last 18 months, simple carbohydrate consumption such as added sugar was the single biggest indicator of the weight gain.

"What we are seeing is that, as valid research and better information is being presented to the public, people are learning that simple carbohydrate consumption can drastically hinder anyone trying to maintain or lose weight," said Segal-Isaacson. "While the CCARB Study and the National Weight Control Registry both demonstrate this point, it seems clear that consuming adequate protein sources in addition to non-starchy vegetables like dark, leafy greens and limiting carbohydrate intake can be a viable option for losing or maintaining weight as a long term approach to eating."

The CCARB Study was established to describe weight, dietary, physical activity and health patterns of low-carbohydrate dieters over a period of three years each. More than half of the participants had their healthcare provider objectively document their weight and height at baseline. Participants complete online questionnaires at baseline, three months and annually for three years.

Source:
biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041117/nyw048_1.html

Iset sa for 20år siden:

Jeg kjøpte avisa i går og satt og bannet på jobb.

Nå har Tjukkholmen-Espen gått ned noen kg og er liksom Norges nye slankeekspert?? :dåne:

Nille sa for 20år siden:

Nå er ikke den gode Espen den første i verden som har tatt av 30 kilo da.... :snill: Det er avisa (presen atter en gang) som lager et slags ikon av den stakkars fyren. Jeg skulle så gjerne si endel om det, men jeg blir så irritert :mad: at jeg tror jeg ikke gjør det allikevel. Skal bruke energien min på å forbrenne fett isteden !! :p
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Forresten så er det bedre de spør HAM, de fleste skjønner at ham er amatør, - istedenfor å spørre Kari og Norym & Frølich & co. Der tror jo folk at alt det de sier er rett !! :p

Fedonisten sa for 20år siden: